Friday, May 17, 2013

Real, Redeemed Marriages: When Hormones Attack

Hey, Warrior Wives!  Today you are privileged to read Lily's story of how out-of-control hormones nearly destroyed their marriage.  I hope you are encouraged by how God used that struggle to transform their marriage into a God-honoring picture of love and respect.  


I remember sitting in our pastors office for premarital counseling when he asked us how we would respond when life got difficult.  I told him that divorce was a word that simply would not be in our vocabulary.  He kept pushing me for more.  What did that look like?  How?  Why?  At that time in the office it was easy enough to say,  that divorce wouldn’t exist in our world.  Little did I know that twelve years later, I would have left my husband and be looking up a divorce attorney.  I was done.  We were done.  We were both so hurt and broken.  That’s when we were finally able to both let the Lord begin His healing.
Shortly after the “I dos” we started down a rocky road.  We both truly believe that it began when I started taking birth control pills right before the wedding.   They sent me spiraling into depression and messed up my hormones in a way I’d never experienced.  I was unstable mentally and emotionally.  We never even had the chance for the “honeymoon” period most newlyweds go through.  Our marriage was rocky from the start.  It continued this way for years.  Neither of us were fulfilled, and we were on a downward spiral. 

Life continued, and six years into marriage we had our first child.  My depression worsened, as did our relationship.  Two years later we had our second child.  My issues with hormones had left me to the point of not being able to function.  My brain was shutting down on me.  I couldn’t remember anything, I could not have done simple arithmetic.  I was an emotional wreck.  Our home became a home of turmoil, constant strife and anger.  I’d sought medical help over the years.  They would order tests, all of which came back normal.  I knew there was something wrong with me, but no one else did.  They couldn’t put a number with it, so it wasn’t real.  They called it Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder (PMDD) and gave me anti-depressant after anti-depressant.  They would help somewhat for 6 months to a year, then fail and leave me even worse.  Multiple drugs later, they all still failed.

My husband was doing the best he could, living with an unstable, crazy wife.  He provided a great deal of primary care for the kids as there were some days I just couldn’t get out of bed.  All this while running his own business.  Life was just plain hard.

Finally, one hot August Thursday night, the end of the battle came.  Not in the way I thought though.  I left.  Well, to be honest, I’d left my husband hundreds of times.  Or at least I’d threatened too.  I’d packed my clothes.  I’d left.  But this time, I was serious.  I was DONE.  And instead of pleading with me like all the other times, he was DONE.  We were done.  I actually considered ending my life.  I thank God for His grace that He didn’t allow me to follow through.  Throughout the years, well meaning, but oblivious Christian friends tried to convince me to leave.  They insisted my husband was abusing me.  The sad truth of the matter was it was quite the opposite.  No one would listen.  He was the man, there was obviously abuse and I just didn’t realize it, or I was in the victim role of denying it because I deserved it.  No, frankly, I was the abusive one.  Thank God, I never laid a hand on my children.  His protection in that is incredible. 

The next morning after a sleepless night, everything changed.  It wasn’t instant, but we were on the path to healing.   We met with a pastor in our town who did counseling.  Everything was laid bare.  Everything.  How shameful it felt to admit what I’d done to my husband over the years.  We established a game plan.  The next Monday I went to see an alternative medicine naturopath.  As nothing else had worked we figured there was nothing to lose.  She ran multiple tests that no one else had.  It quickly revealed why my brain had been shutting down and that my hormones were indeed off.  We set up a treatment plan and within the week, my brain was functioning again.  I could remember a list of three things, something that had been impossible just a month before. 

As the physical healing continued, the emotional healing continued.  Using the boundaries we had established with the counselor, we both learned how we were to function through the healing.  I had accountability with someone from whom I could hide nothing.  She knew all the dirty, icky details.  There was no hiding.  And that’s okay.  While I was deeply ashamed and embarrassed for a while, I also found incredible healing in facing the truth and my sin.  In no longer being able to hide my secrets, I truly understood the power of what Jesus did on the cross when He took my sin and shame.  He bore it that I might be forgiven. 

God’s grace prevailed in our lives.  We finally laid our burdens and hurt down.  I’ll be honest, it wasn’t an easy journey.  The next several months were very difficult.  By Christmas, my hormones were more stable than they had been in 15 years.  We had learned to communicate with each other.  This great lesson in humility taught me to be self-less and what it meant to be a submissive, respectful wife.  When I began to do that, my husband felt like he could conquer the world.  While ultimately fulfillment must come from Christ, he knew that his wife was standing behind him. 

I praise God for His faithfulness in our lives.  He never gave up on us.  He took broken pieces of our sin and selfishness and has created it into a beautiful marriage.  Our home has gone from chaos and turmoil to a peaceful, loving, joyful home.  While the road has been hard, if I knew I’d get to the same place in my life and marriage, I would do it again in a heart beat. 


How about you?  Can any of you relate to Lily's story?  
If you have questions for Lily, leave them in the comments or leave your email address if you'd prefer to ask in private; she'll get back to you as soon as she can.  

About The Author: Bob & Lily live in the Pacific Northwest.  They are the parents of two wonderful children who Lily homeschools.  Bob runs a small business from home.  They will celebrate 14 years of marriage this May.

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Monday, May 13, 2013

Addiction, Rage & Waiting For His Heart

Imagine that you fall in love and marry the man of your dreams.  You begin your life together and have three children together.  

Then imagine that that man starts drinking. 
And drinking...and drinking...and drinking.
And becomes an alcoholic, drinking from the moment he wakes up until the moment he blacks out at night.
And begins to rage against you, screaming in your face, yelling that you're the cause of all his problems, flipping you off the mattress when you're trying to sleep.  

Imagine having to take the kids and leave, first for a night at a time, then eventually needing to move out.  Imagine spending three years living separately. 

Picture remaining committed to your marriage vows through all of this for 22 years.  

Twenty-two years.  

And then imagine that after years of hardship, of feeling hopeless, of praying desperately, of being wounded and in pain, that your husband repents.  

Twenty-two years later.  Please take 10 minutes and watch Joy's story.  Be amazed by what God can do even when things look completely hopeless.  



I just finished reading Joy's book Waiting For His Heart: Lessons From a Wife Who Chose to Stay and it's absolutely amazing.  Joy had every reason and every "right" to renounce her marriage vows and walk away from her marriage; her husband was addicted to alcohol, unrepentant and full of rage towards her.  But although she chose to protect herself and her children by separating for a time, she committed to remaining faithful to her vows.  And not only did she stay committed to her marriage vows, but she chose to focus on her relationship with Christ and actively love her husband through it all.  It's just unbelievable.  What she did was incredibly hard, and I think there are very few women who would choose to persevere through such hardship, but to see what is possible with God is overwhelming.  

If you are in a very, very difficult and seemingly hopeless marriage, I hope you are encouraged by this post from Joy's Facebook page
The God you are asking to woo your husband is the same God who wooed you to Him. He is the same God who parted the Red Sea when there was no way out. He is the same God who rescued Moses out of the Nile. He is the same God who used donkey to speak to Balaam. He is the same God who brought Rebekkah to Issac. He is the same God who spoke the stars into existence. The same God who caused the sun to remain still in the sky while the battle raged. The same God who saved the nation of Israel through a woman named Esther. The same God who gave His life on the cross. The same God who resurrected a rotting dead man. The same God who calmed the sea with His, "Be still!" The same God who has conquered sin and death. The same God who holds everything together. The same God who healed and delivered. The same God who is worthy to be worshiped and praised forever and forever. The same God who has reached down and called you to be HIS own. Your God, the Creator of your husband's heart, mind and soul....do you think this God is unable to reach your beloved?
If you'd like to read more from Joy, she blogs at A Passionate Pursuit of Joy.

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Friday, May 10, 2013

Favorite Submission Resources

I know, right?  Favorite submission resources?  Who has those?  I promise you that I am not crazy.  Let's dive right in, shall we?  

God's Good Design: What the Bible Really Says About Men and Women
- Claire Smith
You need this one for a foundation.  A former feminist prior to her conversion to Christianity, Claire Smith was nearly ordained into the ministry when she began to study in depth the Scripture passages regarding the roles of men and women.  Her studies led her to believe that all the passages discussing the roles of women both in the church and in the home were indeed applicable today.  In a very orderly fashion, Smith works her way through all the controversial and difficult passages about women's roles - 1 Timothy 2, 1 Corinthians 11, 1 Corinthians 14, Ephesians 5, and 1 Peter 3.  She then returns to the Old Testament to discover God's original design for men and women within Genesis.  I loved how she put every single passage of Scripture within a larger context, and I found that they were all much clearer to me by her doing this.  I also appreciated that she included an entire chapter discussing the "ultimate distortion" of submission - domestic abuse.  This isn't the most exciting book in the world, but if you find yourself struggling through those passages, I would recommend that you work your way through this book.  

Fierce Women: The Power of a Soft Warrior - Kimberly Wagner
If you've ever felt like submission and respecting your husband reduces you to a inferior, weak person, Kimberly Wagner will convince you otherwise.  A pastor's wife who taught on respect and submission herself, she found herself struggling in her marriage because of her domineering behaviors and attitudes.  Her message is about how women can rein in their strength and use it for their husband's good.  It is about how the role as "helper" is incredibly crucial, not lame.  Taking the acronym "Appreciation", Wagner gives practical ways to become a strong, but respectful wife; some of her suggestions are to admire and affirm him, put yourself in his skin, invest in him, accept him, encourage his leadership and treat him like a man.  This book is one of my top 5 favorite marriage books.

The God-Empowered Wife - K.B. Haught
K.B. Haught is a little bit of an unknown, but she is actually a NANC certified biblical counselor.  Her background includes being married no less than five times.  Yes, you heard me right - she was married five times, only coming to know Christ during her fifth marriage.  Haught came from a broken home, mistrusting men and focusing intently on being an independent woman.  Never content, she committed adultery against more than one husband, and always tried to control the husband she was married to at the time.  When she became a believer and began to study Scripture, she realized that God was calling her to something more, but by that point, she had controlled her husband right into passivity.  He wouldn't lead.  He had no interest in leading.  Can anyone relate?  Haught gives very simple and practical strategies to work your way out of the driver's seat and help your husband ease back into leadership.  Haught also has a heart to present the gospel message which is woven throughout the entire book.  

Dancing With the One You Love: Living Out Submission in the Real World - Cindy Easley
After laying out a Scriptural foundation for submission from a complementarian background, Cindy dives right into how submission can work in some very specific and tough situations.  How can a wife submit to a husband who is an unbeliever?  What about if your husband is chronically ill or disabled?   Maybe your husband is in the military and frequently deployed, leaving you holding down the fort at home.  Maybe you're a high powered executive and your husband holds a position with lesser importance.  Or maybe you earn more money than her husband.  Can submission work in those scenarios?  Absolutely, and Cindy uses real life stories to explain what submission looks like in all those instances.  At the end of the book, Cindy's husband, Michael, has written a chapter entitled "Man to Man: Chauvinists Need Not Apply" in which he talks to men about how they should view their wife's submission.  And finally, there is a Q & A section where Cindy answers questions such as, "What do you do when your husband is about to make a bad decision that will hurt others" and "How do you submissively disagree?"  A very helpful and easy to read little book.  

Now, for those of you who are not readers, allow me to direct you to a few sermons:

"A Respectful Wife" - Mark Driscoll, Mars Hill Church
"Christ-Centered Relationships - Pt 2" - Francis Chan (Lisa Chan actually does most of the teaching)
"God's Gift to Both Sexes" - Matt Chandler, The Village Church (ok, it's not really about submission, but rather about marriage, but since I am a HUGE Matt Chandler fan, I just had to squeeze something of his in here.)

What books have you found the most helpful in teaching you to fulfill your biblical role as a wife?  Please share in the comments!

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Thursday, May 9, 2013

Submission is a Piece of a Larger Picture

In light of yesterday's post on submission, consider these words from Kathleen Nielson in an article for the Gospel Coalition yesterday:
Environmentalists . . . parents . . . artists . . . women . . . all of us, whatever our specific concerns, tend to look for the strand of the Scriptures that relates to us. The danger comes any time I go after making my own story (or women's stories) central, as opposed to making sense of my story (or women's stories) within the larger story of God's redemption in Christ. Take the scriptural word submission, for example. If I focus on that word and that principle itself, I can get in all kinds of trouble. I can blow up the word into all sorts of rules and scenarios that Scripture itself never addresses. Or I can diminish the word into a shriveled-up relic, ignoring Scripture's plain command. The word is given to us and explained to us in the context of Christ and his church. The principle is shown to shine throughout the Scriptures from the very first woman onward, as the story of the first man and woman keeps appearing, a reference point never left behind. I believe we women can learn about submission in the best way by studying the whole Scriptures, and by learning to love Christ as he is revealed to us and speaks to us through the inspired Word.
There you go.  Balance is the key.  Put submission into the larger context of the whole of Scripture's story and we'd all get way less worked up about it.  

Thoughts?

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Wednesday, May 8, 2013

How the Church Paints Submission

Currently, I'm reading Tim and Kathy Keller's book on marriage - The Meaning of Marriage with a group of women from my church.  Awesome, awesome book.  A few weeks ago, we broached the subject of submission.  Oh yes, the dreaded word.  Submission.  Equal to subservience in many women's minds.   Ever since then, I've been mulling about the question of how the church has taught submission.  How well do we teach it?  What is the picture we paint that colors how men and women view submission?  Has that picture led us to idolize submission or devalue it?  What needs to change to bring the biblical picture of submission back into focus?  

I believe that all those passages about submission were God-breathed and God-inspired.  I believe that they were intended to be applicable to modern day marriages and modern day women.  I have a hard time weaseling my way out of them with intricate discussions of cultural and historical contexts.  But I also believe that believers and churches have not always done a great job teaching these passages and presenting them as sacred and as beautiful as they really are.  I think that we sinners have twisted the passages in ways that devalue marriage, men and women.  

In many churches, we ruin God's picture of marriage by doing one of the following:  

1) The wife's submission is elevated to primary importance in the marriage relationship.  The husband's role is mentioned in passing...maybe.  It is viewed as if a wife is not allowed to voice her opinion, to express preferences, to have charge of responsibilities or to do anything besides smile, nod and conform to her husband's every wish and whim.  When submission is elevated this high, a woman's value is diminished.  She is viewed as not just a weaker partner (1 Peter 3:7) but as a weak partner.  

2) Submission is dismissed as an outdated culturally-biased and sexist command.  Strangely, although the wife's command is ignored, the husband's command still applies today.  When submission is dismissed, a man's value and authority are diminished.  
Submission is viewed as a woman's weak subservience to an oppressive man.  It is viewed as an insult to our intelligence and an affront to our rights.  When this happens, we destroy the image that God has asked us to model to the world.  

Both of those presentations and views of submission are wrong because they are unbalanced and completely inaccurate.  

Here's the thing.  Both men and women have equal value before God.  Furthermore, we have an equal measure of sin and an equal need for salvation. 
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:28)
About this verse, Claire Smith writes, "Galatians 3:28 is a wonderful verse about our full acceptance, unity and common experience in Christ, but it does not bring male and female differences to an end. (God's Good Design, p.44)"

Within that equality, God chose to have the marriage partners differently reflect the relationship between the Father and the Son.  We all agree that God and Jesus are equal, correct?  But although they are one and the same person (equal), Jesus voluntarily took on the subordinate role.  It was not a duty that he performed out of obligation but a gift he offered for the greater good of the creation - our salvation!  Here's how the Kellers describe this interplay:
The Son defers to the Father, taking the subordinate role.  The Father accepts the gift, but then exalts the Son to the highest place.  Each wishes to please the other; each wishes to exalt the other.  Love and honor are given, accepted, and given again...The Son submits to the Father's headship with free, voluntary and joyful eagerness, not out of coercion or inferiority.  The Father's headship is acknowledged in reciprocal delight, respect and love.  There is no inequality of ability or dignity.  We are differently gendered to reflect this life within the Trinity.  Male and female are invited to mirror and reflect the "dance" of the Trinity, loving, self-sacrificing authority and loving, courageous submission.  The Son takes a subordinate role, and in that movement he shows not his weakness but his greatness. (p.175-176, emphasis mine)
Do you see it?  There is no oppression, no weakness, no subservience.  Both wives and husbands are reflecting God in their roles.  One is not better than the other!  Both are to serve.  Both are to exalt.  Both are to love.  

We absolutely cannot teach submission out of this context.  We cannot teach submission apart from an equal explanation of the husband's role because it unbalances the picture.  And we cannot teach submission without emphasizing the great strength that it takes to submit.  None of us see Christ as weak in His submission to death on a cross, do we?  No, we're so incredibly thankful that He offered Himself in that way.  Where would we be without Christ's submission?  And if men reflect God's role here, did God cruelly oppress His own Son in asking him to die for our sins?  No!  There is no place for oppression and no place for "lording it over" a wife within the marital relationship.  Similarly, there is no place for ignoring our husband's loving authority.  On top of all of this, husbands and wives can mimic the relationship between God and the Son with affection, love, open & honest communication, enjoyment and satisfaction.  

All that being said, I realize that husbands and wives are not sinless as God is.  We will always imperfectly fulfill our roles, and some of us may always resent our roles.  Men will not want to lead lovingly, and women will not want to submit graciously.  However, just because one partner chooses to disobey God's commands and destroy the picture, that does not exempt the other partner from their call.  Some wives will need to choose to submit and respect an unloving man (I'm not talking about ignoring abuse and sin; that's another post).  Some husbands will need to choose to serve and sacrifice for an ungrateful and unkind woman.  That's the world we will be living in until Christ returns.  But, don't forget!  
And we know that for those who love God all things work together. (Romans 8:28) 
God uses imperfect marriages as a vehicle of sanctification for both men and women.  This is absolutely good.  God is absolutely good.  Can we reshape our picture and trust our Creator with His original design?

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Monday, May 6, 2013

How to Get Biblical Help for Your Marriage

Many of us are blessed with great marriages.  We enjoy our husbands.  Our husbands enjoy us.  We serve our husband.  He serves us.  He's loving sacrificially and we're respecting his leadership.  We're able to work out issues and solve problems well.  

But that's not all of us, is it?  Many other wives live in difficult marriages.  The husband is unkind.  He is unhelpful.  He is controlling.  He sometimes (or even frequently) makes irresponsible decisions.  He is critical.  He is fearful.  He is lazy.   He is unattractive.  He is demanding.  

What do you do if you find yourself in a marriage that is not reflecting God's design for marriage?  

After Friday's discussion regarding whether or not wives need their husband's permission to receive counseling, I thought it would be helpful to summarize the advice that was offered as well as give my own perspective on how to approach getting help for a difficult marriage.  

Here we go:

1) Evaluate the marital problems in light of Scripture.  Are you looking at genuine sin or just at character qualities that irritate you?  Is it really a huge marriage issue if he watches TV a lot or doesn't ever notice the dishes in the sink?  Are you just irritated by his personality or sense of humor?  

Take a good look through the Bible and see if actions really are defined as sin.   For example, pornography is sinful.  Adultery is sinful.  Explosive anger is sinful.  Slothfulness is sinful.  Obviously, there are a lot more sins identified in Scripture, but you get the idea.

2) Take the plank out of your own eye.  Determine what responsibility - if any - you have in the marriage issues.  Have you been disrespectful?  Have you been unkind?  Have you been self-righteous?  Have you been rude?  Have you ignored his needs?  

What do you need to repent of before God and your spouse?  Don't let yourself off easy here.  Chances are you are not without fault.  In fact, it's an absolute truth that you are not without fault.  Once you have repented, begin walking in obedience to the conviction of the Holy Spirit.  

3) Decide whether the problems can be overlooked out of love or need to be lovingly confronted.
Not everything - even if it is a sin -needs to be confronted.  In fact, Proverbs 19:11 says that good sense makes one slow to anger, and it is his glory to overlook an offense.  And let me say right here, that physical abuse should NEVER be overlooked.  EVER.  It's harmful, sinful and also illegal.  

4) Exercise healthy communication skills and bring them up to your husband FIRST.  
Basically, I'm advocating that you follow the Matthew 18 process here. 
If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.
When there is an issue that genuinely needs to be confronted, you always start with the person who has offended you.  You do not call 10 friends and tell them all the ways your husband is a jerk.  You do not call your mom and complain and ask your dad to come and tell him off.  You do not leave your husband in ignorance as to why you are upset with him and give your friends and family more information than you give your husband.  That is straight-up disrespectful and sinful gossip/slander.

5) Determine the need for reinforcements.  You probably don't need counseling yet (unless you need someone to help you figure out how to approach your husband in a loving, godly way).  Give your husband time to think, pray and respond.  Give him some time and some grace to implement changes.  Accept genuine baby steps and don't expect perfection.  Change is a process, not an event.  If you have children, think about how children learn a new skill.  They don't get it, they don't get it, they don't get it, and then...suddenly...they get it!  They move from laying like a blob on the floor to creeping to crawling to pulling up to walking to stumbling around like a drunk person and then finally, to running.  And then when they finally figure out how to run, they run the wrong way.  They run away from us in a parking lot.  They run imperfectly and we help them to figure out how to rein in this new and exciting skill.  We allow our children time for growth; we should allow the same grace to our husbands.  

If nothing has changed, then you can bring in others for help.  You may need to approach an older woman or couple or even the elders of the church to come alongside you.  A counselor (a truly biblical counselor) might be an appropriate person to bring into the situation at this point.  If you're not in a church, you need to be in one.  If you're in a church that doesn't believe in the authority of Scripture or doesn't conduct their affairs in a biblically ordained way, then you need to find a better church.  

Your husband - if he is really ornery - might either forbid you from receiving counseling or refuse to attend counseling.  Most husbands will not forbid you from getting counseling.  They might have an opinion as to which counselor you see, and if that's the case, you should respect his wishes and work with that request.  This is probably not a hill you want to die on.  But if he is absolutely determined that you do not get counseling at all (and the counseling really is needed), then I think that husband has stepped into sin in two possible areas:
1) he's asking you to ignore the Matthew 18 process by not continuing the confrontation beyond yourself, or
2) he's asking you to step out of biblical community.  Believers are told not to give up meeting together.  We are told to encourage one another, teach one another, admonish one another, rebuke one another and a whole host of more one-anothers.  Older woman are commanded to teach younger women.  The implied command for younger women is to receive counsel from older women.  

In her book Helper By Design, biblical counselor Elyse Fitzpatrick writes, "God has granted a certain authority to every human institution: the family, the church, and the state.  God has also set limits to this authority: No one has the authority to command anyone else to sin or to compromise his conscience...In every case where your husband seeks to follow Christ and lead you to greater love and service for God, you are to follow him, but if he tries to turn you from the Lord or asks you to join him in sin, you are to respectfully and humbly refuse (p.148)."  

It is my personal opinion that if your husband asks you to step out of the community of believers in an attempt to avoid confronting his own destructive sin or commands you to not approach the church authorities for help, he is turning you from the Lord.  

Here's where it gets sticky and uncomfortable...and also where my nice, neat bullet points end.

You may need to pursue church discipline.  
You may need to pursue legal options.

OR you may actually need to suffer.  And you may need to learn how to depend on Christ to respond in a godly way to mistreatment.  Divorce is not an option for a marriage that is "simply" difficult.  Again, I'm not talking about just ignoring or dealing with physical abuse or drug addiction.  (Joy McClain talks about one possible biblical response to both of these in her book Waiting For His Heart).  But in addressing servants, Peter writes:
For this is a gracious thing, when, mindful of God, one endures sorrows while suffering unjustly.  For what credit is it if, when you sin and are beaten for it, you endure?  But if when you do good and suffer for it you endure, this is a gracious thing in the sight of God.  For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you might follow in his steps.  He committed no sin, neither was deceit found in his mouth.  When he was reviled, he did not revile in return; when he suffered, he did not threaten, but continued entrusting himself to him who judges justly. (1 Peter 2:19-23)
Obviously, this process is much-simplified, especially the part about enduring suffering but I think the skeleton for handling marital problems is generally present.  Is there any part of the process I've described that you would change or add to or just completely disagree with?  Feel free to disagree and bring in additional Scriptures.  I welcome the conversation.   

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Friday, May 3, 2013

Let's Chat: Do You Need Permission for Counseling?

I mentioned on Wednesday that I had some issues with a principle laid out in one of the books I read in April.  The book in question was Nancy Wilson's The Fruit of Her Hands: Respect and the Christian Woman. I really appreciated the second half of the book (especially when she talked about how young wives/mothers have a tendency to pass judgment on others about methods - kindred spirit!), but there was a portion of her discussion of respect and submission that has me wrinkling my forehead.  



Let me lay it out in an organized fashion and then you all tell me what you think.

The Scriptural basis for Nancy's argument is this:
Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior.  Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands. (Ephesians 5:22-24)
So far, so good.

But then, there's this:
When women call me for spiritual help, I check to see that they have their husband's blessing in seeking my advice...If he is in outright rebellion (i.e. a hit man for the Mafia), a wife must not wait to get his permission, but must go get help...So if your situation is a drastic one, you may seek outside help - but still do so respectfully. (p.28)
And this:
When I talk to a woman about a problem or a question, I often check to see if she has asked her husband about this first.  In many cases she has not.  This makes a big difference in how I counsel her.  I do not want to advise her in a way that does not recognize his headship.  She needs to go to her husband and see if he wants her to talk to me in the first place.  Maybe he would rather she did not.  God will honor this kind of respect. (p.40)
And this:
Once a woman told me her marriage was faltering and asked me if I would be her counselor.  I asked if her husband knew she had called me.  No, he didn't.  I told her to ask for his permission first and call me back.  She called back; he had said, "No."  I encouraged her to honor him as her head and trust that God would provide someone her husband would approve of to help her. (p.45)
Do you see my issue?  I agree that wives are to willingly submit to their husbands.  I believe we should treat them with respect.  I believe we should use good communication skills and bring our concerns to our husbands first.  I don't believe we should be snarking about them behind their backs.  I don't think we should be telling all our friends about our husband's failings.  I don't think we should sneak around getting counseling.  


But do wives really need permission to receive counseling?  Is it a violation of respect to get spiritual help for marital issues without explicit permission?  How should a wife respond respectfully if her husband forbids her to receive counsel?

Ready. Set. Discuss.

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